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December 11, 2012 By Francis Leave a Comment

Outsourcing My Job Search, Was It Worth the Time?

by Francis
(December 11, 2012)

If you follow my project about outsourcing my job search efforts closely; you will ask yourself the question;

“Setting up the cooperation and outsourcing the research – Was it worth the time?”

Actually, I took about two hours to record my ideas and the plan for the instructions for the provider or contractor in order for him to complete the task of researching job openings for me.

It was not much of a loss of time because I did the following;

I simply worked through the job search myself as I would’ve done and recorded what I was doing with the free screen recording software “Jing” as I was going.

So the additional time invested was pretty minimal.

Perhaps of those two hours, one hour was “wasted” in order for me to set up a system where someone else could outsource the whole process.

You also have to be aware of the fact that my virtual assistant has been trained to be a hiring manager. In other words, he can take care of hiring, managing and screening through different applicants for me. This is some time I invested beforehand and from which I reap the rewards right now.

So if you would have the idea of outsourcing your job research for your special situation yourself, you need to be aware of the time you will need to find an applicant, manage him, take care of paying him and etc.

Another question is about the money. Was it worth the money?

How much did this experiment actually cost me?

As it is still running at the time of writing this blog post, I cannot give you the sum yet, but you have to invest in to the hourly rate of a researcher between $1 and $4 an hour depending on the quality, qualifications and personality of the personal assistant and the time you need to manage him or whatever the time is worth to you.

Compare that with professional career search services. In many of them you pay hundreds of dollars. Some of them have monthly costs of about $10 a month and the results of those services are menial to say the least.

In some cases, of course, you will find a perfect job opportunity to apply to, but in many cases, you will need to do the searching yourself.

So decide it for yourself. If you have tried out every paid job search in the book, why not have someone else help you find or research the internet for you for the places around where you live for a job opportunity.

It was this sort of time consideration which made me decide that it is time to outsource this whole process. I have spent hundreds of hours and a few weeks and month doing the research already. So I know I can do it myself.

But now it’s about numbers. It’s a number’s game and to increase those numbers, I will use the help of a virtual assistant to do the job searching for me.

Bottom line

Yes, it is worth it.

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Comments for Outsourcing My Job Search, Was It worth the Time?

Dec 11, 2012 $40 – And a Big List of Backup Contacts
by: Francis I recorded this blog post when I was in the middle of the whole project.Now I can tell you…

The project costs me $40 for a great virtual assistant’s work, plus $5 for a not so great work which I didn’t use.

I actually never came in a situation where I needed to use the researched job contacts.

I found a job in the mean way with a very classical method.

Please read my tips for the job hunt for the No. 1 secret I learned in order to get a job.

Sep 17, 2014 Favor in return
by: Jomvie In my opinion, if that helped you get a job, it’s definitely worth it!It would have cost you more than 40 dollars if you did the job hunting yourself like spending cash up front for gas, meals and other unsolicited expenses.

For that matter, I do agree that outsourcing is better because it will not only benefit you, you also have given work opportunities to other people—just like me 😀

I don’t think it’s called “charity” (some might think that way) because I work hard for it and you also benefit out of it—it’s a win-win situation.

Keep it up!

Sep 17, 2014 Costs are much more transparent than other job search services
by: Francis Recently, I had to spend over 150$ for a job search service that started as a very cheap subscription for 2 weeks, but then was automatically lengthened by 3 months.It seems they slipped some small-print into their terms of use, which had me trapped.

Needless to say, that I have no results to show for this investment, as unwanted as it was.

With outsourcing that you pay per hour, you have a much better control about the budget that leaves your pocket, at least!

Filed Under: My Outsourced Job Search

December 11, 2012 By Francis Leave a Comment

Screening Applicants for This Job: Melisa Gets Competition from Ashley from the Philippines

by Francis
(December 11, 2012)

If you are reading this blog post, that means that you can follow along in real time as I hire a virtual assistant to do job research for me. I already shared my thoughts about the first applicant, Melisa from Indonesia, in another blog post.

Now let’s have a look at Ashley from the Philippines. First of all, every time I hire someone to do an outsourced job for me; I have in mind that we have a section of case studies showcasing different profiles of virtual assistants from all over the world.

My goal is really to have case studies from providers from different countries. So, this applicant coming from the Philippines is somehow a disadvantage for her. Ashley doesn’t know it yet but I’m looking forward to have as international of a team as I can possibly have. But, perhaps we should have a closer look at her skills first.

So the first thing I usually look at when deciding if I hire someone is her hourly rate. Ashley’s hourly rate is $2.50 per hour. This is not too much to ask even for a research job. It all depends on the location of the provider.

Unfortunately, my budget is extremely tight and there’s not much room for me to be overly generous especially if the research takes much time. So probably this price tag already is a no go area.
But let’s have a closer look at her profile first. All qualifications are matched on the job description. She has the work experience and she has the feedback – excellent feedback, by the way.

Also, I see that she has several other projects at the same time still in progress. If I wanted to hire her almost full time, I would know that she already has other contracts with other people. If you are in a similar position when hiring, you should look out for that.

One detail that disgruntled me was;

– first, she didn’t answer the test question within the job position. This means she did not read the job description closely enough.

– Another really small detail confirms this. She writes, “This letter is to express my interest in discussing the research expert position posted here on oDesk.“

The rest of the letter could apply to any other job opening and after the research expert, there are two spaces. I strongly think that this is a copy pasted cover letter where only the position has been changed. Therefore, this applicant will not be a good choice.

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Aug 21, 2014 not much but will do just fine
by: Jomvie

As an online provider from the Philippines, $2.50 is not really that much, especially if the job is demanding—it can’t pay half of the hard work. But if the job is just purely research and does not involve too much strenuous activity, then, that rate will do just fine.

Filed Under: My Outsourced Job Search

December 11, 2012 By Francis Leave a Comment

Interviewing the First Applicants for the Project of Outsourcing My Job Research

by Francis
(December 11, 2012)

As we set up the applicants test a little bit harder and we have also made the conditions for this job pretty harsh, I was not surprised to see that we don’t have dozens of applicants right after posting the job.

In fact only a few hours after we opened the post, we have one first applicant – a female candidate from Indonesia. I’m personally curious about her because I have never worked with an applicant from Indonesia before.

A quick glance to the price tag says, okay she’s within an extremely reasonable price range; $1 per hour for basic research is so reasonable it borders on cheap, but I’m working on a tight schedule so let’s see how the other qualifications of this applicant are.

She does not have enough work experience or feedback score.

What does this tell me?

She is, in fact, a relatively new oDesk worker who only probably wants to increase her feedback rate.

When I check in to her profile, I see that she only had one fixed-priced job that gave her bad feedback.

So this does not necessarily mean that she does bad work. It only means that perhaps if I would need a blogger writer, like the past job was, I would want another provider, Or that her previous employer was a mean guy.

So just in case no one else would apply to this job, I could really imagine giving her a chance.

She passed the little test of translating a German word “Unternehmen” into English “business”. Also, her cover letter is really focused on the job opening and it is free of English mistakes.

All these are great signs that this could indeed be a very capable applicant. So let’s keep her in mind when we will hire someone after good nights of sleep.

You don’t need to hire anyone right away. You can always sleep over it and hire them.

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Aug 21, 2014 Feedback is a must with oDesk
by: John

Newbies on oDesk can’t get a higher rate and that is a probable reason. I tried oDesk before and a good feedback is a plus points for her to be able to raise her rate.

Filed Under: My Outsourced Job Search

December 11, 2012 By Francis Leave a Comment

How I Outsourced the Job Opening and Hiring of a Researcher for My Outsourced Job Research

by Francis
(December 11, 2012)

My plan is to have someone research possible job openings in my area for me. Since I know that hiring and especially managing applicants is really time-consuming and I don’t have any minute to spare right now, I decided to outsource the whole process to my main virtual assistant.

Since I have trained him in this whole process before, I am going to make use of his newly gained skill.

What use would it be to train your virtual assistant and then do the task yourself?

How we found a reasonably tough test to filter out the right applicants

In order to find the right applicants out of hundreds of people applying to your job, especially if it is one as easy as researching, it is always wise to put a little test in your job offering. I already talked about the so-called Sunshine test.

This time, the research would be pretty challenging and furthermore, German knowledge will be the key. Of course, I expect that not many applicants will actually bring German language skills to the table. However, there are different levels of skills when it comes to use translation tools online.

Actually, the first test I wanted to do was way too hard. My test question was to determine on which German trains line, a certain specific station was. In order to answer that, the applicant will have to research the location of the train station in Google maps, determine what the train station near that place was and then on which train station line it was.

My virtual assistant stopped me here. This test was just too hard. If we would have gone along with using this test, we would probably have weeded out all applicants. That’s no good. So I decided to use a simple translation test and asked for the translation of the German word for “Enterprise”.

This not only screens the applicants who are willing to do a simple translation research for a job opening, but also it will be one of most important words that will come up in all the research.

How the actual applicants screening went?

I will tell you that in another blog post.

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Filed Under: My Outsourced Job Search

December 6, 2012 By Francis Leave a Comment

SBI is not only a Platform for Making an Online Business – It is also a Place Where People Care

by Francis
(December 06, 2012)

I Love SBI!

I’m excited every time I log into SBI and every time I read the SBI forums. The owner of the whole system, Ken, is an extremely wise, business savvy and most of all kind man.

How much?

It so only becomes apparent if you are part of the community and see day to day his commitment and passion to his customers. The customers, of course are people who possess site builder websites.

One of Many Acts of the Heart

I’m not saying this happens every day and I’m not saying that you’re entitled to this sort of service if you sign up and create a website on SBI. However, the spirit is something which I find more and more often especially in times like now when Webmasters are depressed and de-motivated by all the changes on Google algorithms.

What happened?

A user of the forum who previously had two extremely successful websites on SBI got hit hard by the different algorithm changes and couldn’t do anything about it.

“Where is the point in building a website if something can happen overnight to destroy your online business?” He asked; a very valid question.

You should be careful when starting an online business. It does not always go well. However, for all its worth, if you do it when you’re using SBI; you’re doing it in the most safely, well-thought out way that it is possible to build an online business. That much I can guarantee.

So what’s the News?

SBI!

The user got more and more depressed in his post. So much that even the business owner, Ken, got involved in to the discussion. And then when the customer could not take it anymore from all the setbacks, Ken made him a special offer. He showed him how he could get some help for free within the walls of SBI of course.

Before that many, many users already tried their level best to give him useful business advice on how to save his online businesses. Some of those users are already extremely successful themselves. All of this great advice is very useful for any reader like me who does not even have that problem.

To be part of the forum themselves, which are really full of loving and friendly people, is one the best features from the whole SBI subscriptions. It is one of the reasons why I still will chose SBI for every website I will create just to support this great community.

It’s rare to find such kind, friendly places online. Usually, you will only find people who try to make profit on your expense or customers who are only searching for what’s in it for them.

In the SBI forum, the focus is on help and get helped. Everyone looks out to each other. To be honest, I already have made some dear online friends without even having met them. I hope I will be able to go to one of those conferences, which take place from time to time, organized by SBI users to meet some of my online friends face to face.

Filed Under: Tips to start an online business

December 6, 2012 By Francis Leave a Comment

Problems with Getting My Order for An Outsourced Logo from Fiverr

by Francis
(December 06, 2012)

Getting this logo done was not always easy

Getting this logo done was not always easy

I thought I had a pretty good deal with this gig. The user promised a great logo delivered in two or three weeks. He was smart to add additional gigs that you could buy in addition in order to speed things up.

I want to economize some money and was ready to patiently wait my three weeks until I get my logo. Also, he has only had good feedback so I was willing to trust in the process.

Now here’s what happened, I wrote to him the following;
need a log disscussion screenshot
After I have submitted this message and waited the time needed; I got the response from him.

need a log disscussion screenshot
I genuinely could understand that this Fiverr person did not want me to leave him a bad feedback. And I also understand if there’s a technical glitch.

However, I never received my logo up to this point of writing this blog post. Perhaps, this will work out. I have sent him a last stern email.

The problem is Fiverr’s rating system. It’s heavily geared towards the seller and not the person who actually pays the money. That, in my opinion, is a flaw on the Fiverr website.

A few days after my logo was supposedly delivered, I still got an option to resolve a problem or ask for a refund. A few days later, this option has disappeared. The only thing I can still do is give a positive or a negative feedback.

I can even imagine that a few days later, he will get a positive feedback by default. I’m not sure about this but I could imagine this happening.

So as long as I still have some leverage, I will be able to put negative feedback on this seller’s page. If he delivers good results, I will probably be able to change this into positive feedback.

Bottom line, when you pay your money on Fiverr, it’s your job to run after the results because it will be difficult to get the money back.

I hope that the final outsourced logo will be worth it. I have had more worries than $5 are actually worth.

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Jan 28, 2013 The Results Weren’t So Bad After All!
by: FrancisCheck out this post to read more about how all turned out fine in the end.But still the message is:

“You need some patience and good nerves some times, if you order things on Fiverr.
And if you have both of them, this service can be worth it!”

Filed Under: Fiverr Outsourcing Gigs

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